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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:20 pm
Post subject: Bug#525945: thunar fails to remount removable media when running as daemon
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Package: thunar
Version: 1.0.0-2
Severity: normal
When thunar is running as a daemon, a removable device that is unmounted,
unplugged, and plugged back in cannot be re-mounted. The error is
"org.freedsekop.hal.storage.mount-removable no <-- (action, result)".
If the thunar daemon is terminated, and thunar is started manually from a
terminal or from the xfce4 menu instead, this error does not occur.
-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
APT prefers testing
APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=en_CA.iso8859-1 (charmap=ISO-8859-1)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Versions of packages thunar depends on:
ii desktop-file-utils 0.15-2 Utilities for .desktop files
ii exo-utils 0.3.100-2 Utility files for libexo
ii libatk1.0-0 1.24.0-2 The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii libc6 2.9-4 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii libcairo2 1.8.6-2+b1 The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii libdbus-1-3 1.2.12-1 simple interprocess messaging syst
ii libdbus-glib-1-2 0.80-3 simple interprocess messaging syst
ii libexo-0.3-0 0.3.100-2 Library with extensions for Xfce
ii libfreetype6 2.3.9-4 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii libglib2.0-0 2.20.0-2 The GLib library of C routines
ii libgtk2.0-0 2.14.7-5 The GTK+ graphical user interface
ii libice6 2:1.0.5-1 X11 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii libpango1.0-0 1.24.0-3+b1 Layout and rendering of internatio
ii libsm6 2:1.1.0-2 X11 Session Management library
ii libthunar-vfs-1-2 1.0.0-2 VFS abstraction used in thunar
ii libx11-6 2:1.2.1-1 X11 client-side library
ii libxfce4util4 4.6.0-2 Utility functions library for Xfce
ii shared-mime-info 0.30-2 FreeDesktop.org shared MIME databa
ii thunar-data 1.0.0-2 Provides thunar documentation, ico
Versions of packages thunar recommends:
ii dbus-x11 1.2.12-1 simple interprocess messaging syst
ii gamin 0.1.10-1 File and directory monitoring syst
ii hal 0.5.12~git20090406.46dc48-2 Hardware Abstraction Layer
pn thunar-volma <none> (no description available)
ii xdg-user-dir 0.10-1 tool to manage well known user dir
ii xfce4-panel 4.4.2-6 The Xfce4 desktop environment pane
Versions of packages thunar suggests:
pn thunar-archive-plugin <none> (no description available)
ii thunar-media-tags-plugin 0.1.2-1 Media tags plugin for Thunar file
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:20 am
Post subject: Bug#525945: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#525945: thunar fails to remount removable media when running as daemon [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I did have thunar-volman installed, and the same thing was happening. I
removed it to verify it wasn't thunar-volman causing the issue.
I have consolekit and policykit installed, and spent several hours
debugging that new level of complexity as well. I used to use
startxfce4, and had to switch to using startx with 'exec
ck-launch-session startxfce4' in $HOME/.xsession to make mounting (and
suspend/hibernate) work at all in the new model. I have verified that my
console session is correct (via ck-list-sessions) and that I have the
correct authorizations as well (via polkit-auth).
The only way I have been able to reproduce the error consistently is by
running thunar as a daemon, mounting a USB device (by clicking on it in
thunar), unmounting it (by right-clicking on it in thunar), unplugging
it, plugging it back in, and trying to mount it again (by clicking on it
in thunar).
On 04/27/09 23:58, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On lun, 2009-04-27 at 20:40 -0600, Scott Barker wrote:
>> When thunar is running as a daemon, a removable device that is unmounted,
>> unplugged, and plugged back in cannot be re-mounted. The error is
>> "org.freedsekop.hal.storage.mount-removable no <-- (action, result)".
>>
>> If the thunar daemon is terminated, and thunar is started manually from a
>> terminal or from the xfce4 menu instead, this error does not occur.
>
> Hmhm, strange. I see you don't use thunar-volman (this is fine). Hal is
> installed, but are consolekit and policykit installed too? Do you start
> Xfce using a display manager, startx, startxfce4, something like that?
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:20 am
Post subject: Bug#525945: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#525945: Bug#525945: thunar fails to remount removable media when running as daemon [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On mar, 2009-04-28 at 05:19 -0600, Scott Barker wrote:
> I did have thunar-volman installed, and the same thing was happening. I
> removed it to verify it wasn't thunar-volman causing the issue.
>
> I have consolekit and policykit installed, and spent several hours
> debugging that new level of complexity as well. I used to use
> startxfce4, and had to switch to using startx with 'exec
> ck-launch-session startxfce4' in $HOME/.xsession to make mounting (and
> suspend/hibernate) work at all in the new model. I have verified that my
> console session is correct (via ck-list-sessions) and that I have the
> correct authorizations as well (via polkit-auth).
Hmhm ok. I guess we can eliminate a policy/auth stuff.
>
> The only way I have been able to reproduce the error consistently is by
> running thunar as a daemon, mounting a USB device (by clicking on it in
> thunar), unmounting it (by right-clicking on it in thunar), unplugging
> it, plugging it back in, and trying to mount it again (by clicking on it
> in thunar).
It happens with all the usb devices you tried?
Is there something in /var/log/syslog during the various mount/umounts?
Could you try lshal -m during those operations, too?
I tried to reproduce, but failed.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:20 am
Post subject: Bug#525945: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#525945: Bug#525945: Bug#525945: thunar fails to remount removable media when running as daemon [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On mar, 2009-04-28 at 08:00 -0600, Scott Barker wrote:
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> Attached are two logs from lshal -m, one with thunar run as a foreground
> process, the other with it running as a daemon. There is no other output
> to any other logs related to this problem.
When running as a foreground process, you didn't quit between the first
connect and the second one, did you?
It looks to me like a hal problem (device correctly appears in the
kernel logs, but not in hal).
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> The only other thing I have noticed during testing is that every time
> the device is removed and re-inserted, a new [scsi_eh_X] process appears
> in the process list, where 'X' is incremented each time. Similarly, in
> the kernel output (dmesg), when the device is scanned, it gets a
> different scsi device ID (as in 'sd XX:0:0:0: [sdb] ...', where XX
> increments each time).
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> Perhaps thunar is somehow caching hardware state when running as a
> daemon, and the change in scsi ID is not being picked up?
I don't think thunar caches anything. It relies on hal events to notice
that a removable device appeared.
What's weird is that thunar influences hal, which seems really very
weird.
I'm a bit stuck here, to be honest.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:20 am
Post subject: Bug#525945: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#525945: Bug#525945: Bug#525945: thunar fails to remount removable media when running as daemon [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 04/28/09 08:27, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> When running as a foreground process, you didn't quit between the first
> connect and the second one, did you?
In both cases (daemon and foreground), I left the thunar window open as
I unmounted, removed, reconnected and tried to remount the device.
> It looks to me like a hal problem (device correctly appears in the
> kernel logs, but not in hal).
Sorry - I should have noted that in the case of running thunar as a
daemon, it wouldn't even mount the device the first time I reconnected
it, so the log I sent in that case does not show repeated insertion and
removal. It seems that once a device has been inserted, mounted, and
unmounted, thunar as a daemon can no longer mount it anymore, while
thunar as a foreground process can. Doing lshal -m while thunar is
running as a daemon, and inserting and removing the device repeatedly,
hal is noticing it every time, while thunar continues to not mount the
device.
> I don't think thunar caches anything. It relies on hal events to notice
> that a removable device appeared.
> What's weird is that thunar influences hal, which seems really very
> weird.
I just tried something different - I launched thunar as a daemon from a
terminal window, and then everything worked fine. So, the difference
seems to be launching thunar as a daemon via the window manager. I've
been launching it by going to the menu and choosing Settings -> File
Manager, which launches /usr/bin/Thunar --daemon if it is not already
running.
Of course, I've also been launching thunar from the window manager menu
as well (directly in the top-level menu as File Manager), so I'm not
sure what is different about how thunar is invoked between those two menus.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:20 am
Post subject: Bug#525945: Info received ([Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#525945: Bug#525945: Bug#525945: thunar fails to remount removable media when running as daemon) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Following up on my last entry, it seems that the problem must exist in
the way thunar is started when the thunar-settings script spawns thunar
as a daemon. The problem always occurs when thunar is launched that way,
and never occurs when run directly as a daemon, nor when run as a
foreground process. Something to do with dbus-send or the way it invokes
thunar?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:20 am
Post subject: Bug#525945: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#525945: Bug#525945: Bug#525945: Bug#525945: thunar fails to remount removable media when running as daemon [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On mar, 2009-04-28 at 08:44 -0600, Scott Barker wrote:
> On 04/28/09 08:27, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> > When running as a foreground process, you didn't quit between the first
> > connect and the second one, did you?
>
> In both cases (daemon and foreground), I left the thunar window open as
> I unmounted, removed, reconnected and tried to remount the device.
Ok
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> > It looks to me like a hal problem (device correctly appears in the
> > kernel logs, but not in hal).
>
> Sorry - I should have noted that in the case of running thunar as a
> daemon, it wouldn't even mount the device the first time I reconnected
> it, so the log I sent in that case does not show repeated insertion and
> removal. It seems that once a device has been inserted, mounted, and
> unmounted, thunar as a daemon can no longer mount it anymore, while
> thunar as a foreground process can. Doing lshal -m while thunar is
> running as a daemon, and inserting and removing the device repeatedly,
> hal is noticing it every time, while thunar continues to not mount the
> device.
So both hal logs are identical. Just, when running “as a daemon”, it'll
refuse to mount the second time. Is that correct?
> I just tried something different - I launched thunar as a daemon from a
> terminal window, and then everything worked fine. So, the difference
> seems to be launching thunar as a daemon via the window manager. I've
> been launching it by going to the menu and choosing Settings -> File
> Manager, which launches /usr/bin/Thunar --daemon if it is not already
> running.
Can you try running Thunar vs. thunar and Thunar --daemon vs. thunar
--daemon. Double check there is no other instance running, wether with T
or t.
>
> Of course, I've also been launching thunar from the window manager menu
> as well (directly in the top-level menu as File Manager), so I'm not
> sure what is different about how thunar is invoked between those two menus.
The latter only runs Thunar (so if it's not already running as a daemon,
it'll run a new instance and die when the window is closed).
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:20 am
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I traced through the scripts in /etc/X11/Xsession, and found that
dbus-launch is pre-pended to $STARTUP after $STARTUP is set to
$HOME/.xsession, so my method of invoking xfce4 from the console turns into:
dbus-launch --exit-with-session $HOME/.xsession
$HOME/.xsession contains:
exec ck-launch-session startxfce4
So, my entire session, *except* dbus is in the ck-launch-session. I
confirmed this by creating a script to run polkit-auth and direct the
output to a file. When this script is run from thunar launched as a
daemon by dbus, the necessary authorization are missing.
I am going to purge libpam-ck-connector so that the stock squeeze
Xsession scripts can use ck-launch-session as designed, and see what
happens then.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:20 am
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Purging libpam-ck-connector and reducing my .xsession to just 'exec
startxfce4' has fixed the problem. Feel free to close this bug report. I
will file a wishlist item for libpam-ck-connector for a warning to be
added to the package description that users who start X from a text
shell instead of a graphical manager should not install
libpam-ck-connector unless they really have a good reason to do so. I
will also file a wishlist item against xfce4-utils that the
documentation on whether to use 'startx' or 'startxfce4' should be
clarified.
Thank you for the assistance, and sorry to trouble you.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:20 pm
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On mar, 2009-04-28 at 09:16 -0600, Scott Barker wrote:
> Purging libpam-ck-connector and reducing my .xsession to just 'exec
> startxfce4' has fixed the problem. Feel free to close this bug report. I
> will file a wishlist item for libpam-ck-connector for a warning to be
> added to the package description that users who start X from a text
> shell instead of a graphical manager should not install
> libpam-ck-connector unless they really have a good reason to do so. I
> will also file a wishlist item against xfce4-utils that the
> documentation on whether to use 'startx' or 'startxfce4' should be
> clarified.
I'm not sure this is a good idea. I'm investigating shutdown bugs for
another user, and we just managed to find that, if you don't use gdm,
then you _need_ libpam-ck-connector so you have the correct rights, and
can shutdown.
I don't really know what happens to you, but it seems that the “first”
Thunar is outside of consolekit, somethingg like that?
I think (but I'm not yet really sure) that, if you're not using gdm (and
kdm, maybe), then you need to have libpam-ck-connector installed, and
you should start xfce using startxfce4 or startxfce4, but anyway beware
of that consolekit stuff.
I don't really know what you are trying to do with your .xsession and
the ck-launch-session stuff.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:20 pm
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On 04/28/09 10:15, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> I'm not sure this is a good idea. I'm investigating shutdown bugs for
> another user, and we just managed to find that, if you don't use gdm,
> then you _need_ libpam-ck-connector so you have the correct rights, and
> can shutdown.
I can shutdown and hibernate just fine without libpam-ck-connector, from
my graphical session. I'm now starting xfce with:
startx /usr/bin/startxfce4
Starting with just 'startxfce4' from the command prompt won't work,
though. Perhaps something similar has to be done for gnome and KDE?
Also, I am not trying to do any dbus/hal stuff from my initial text
terminal logon, so I can't say what would happen there without
libpam-ck-connector.
> I don't really know what happens to you, but it seems that the “first”
> Thunar is outside of consolekit, somethingg like that?
That seems to be it exactly. If thunar is started as a daemon using the
settings menu, it is invoked with the thunar-settings script, which uses
dbus to launch thunar, and the way I was invoking xfce4 before was not
including dbus in the ck-launch-session command. Now that I am using
startx /usr/bin/startxfce4 to start xfce4, everything is working fine,
including when thunar gets launched via dbus in thunar-settings.
> I think (but I'm not yet really sure) that, if you're not using gdm (and
> kdm, maybe), then you need to have libpam-ck-connector installed, and
> you should start xfce using startxfce4 or startxfce4, but anyway beware
> of that consolekit stuff.
>
> I don't really know what you are trying to do with your .xsession and
> the ck-launch-session stuff.
All I did was step through what happens in the /etc/X11/Xsession.d/*
scripts, to determine what the final xinit client command would be. It
matters what order things are invoked in. My original method (using my
..xsession file in my home directory) resulted in the xinit client being:
ssh-agent dbus-launch ck-session-launch --exit-with-session
$HOME/.xsession
Where my .xsession file then exec'd startxfce4. This resulted in
everything except dbus being launched within ck-session-launch. Thus
thunar being launched via dbus in thunar-settings did not get the right
policykit authorizations, which caused my initial problem.
Removing my .xsession file and starting instead with 'startx
/usr/bin/startxfce4' results in the xinit client being:
ssh-agent ck-session-launch dbus-launch --exit-with-session
/usr/bin/startxfce4
As you can see, dbus is now included in the ck-session-launch.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:20 pm
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Sorry, I thought I had deleted my .xsession file in some of my earlier
testing, but apparently I had not. Starting xfce4 with:
startx /usr/bin/startxfce4
actually does not work. However, putting this into $HOME/.xsession:
exec /usr/bin/startxfce4
and then starting xfce4 with just:
startx
does work.
My apologies for my earlier incorrect statements.
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